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Absolution: Episode 3: Shephard

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Absolution: Episode Three – “Shephard” from Absolution TV on Vimeo.

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This is episode three of the internet-based TV Show, Absolution. In this episode, the survivors are up against the odds; a horde of infected are on their way to the teenagers’ doorstep. Will they live to see another day?

  • Andrew

    Good one, amazing dramatic tension.

  • Peter (Co-Creator)

    Man… I cannot ACT! Love the Mr. Mason reference though.

  • Peter (Co-Creator)

    Ok, just finished watching it. Pretty good. I love the way Danny's song fits in with the beginning of the fight. I still don't understand why all those gun effects are missing from the second half of the fight… Bah. Anyways, Charlie CAN act. Kudos to him and Lauren who did an awesome job this episode. Battle music was good for the first half of the fight as well. Good jobs guys.

  • Caleb

    Amazing guys! You did really good, I loved the battle scene. Only problem is,as you know the gun sots. But it really doesn't matter that much. Lauren and Charlie the scene when you two were in the room after Jordan was filming everyone, that was one of the the best acted scenes in the show, if not the best. Also Teddy and Drew, that was an awesome fight you two also did a great scene.

  • Laura G

    Whoa, this is pretty amazing. Peter, you CAN act, and I think all of you were amazing on the acting side this epsiode. Ok, so all of it was amazing. It really had the feel of something you'd see on tv, I mean, the suspence, the interaction between the characters… I really liked when before the fight the camera went by everyone. Btw, nice make-up on Cody, the scrapes looked pretty real.

    Totally worth waiting for, good job everybody!!

    -Laura

  • Nathan G

    Great job!! Music is awsome! Looking forward to the next episode.

  • Diego Rivera

    Wow, guys. That WAS worth the wait!
    Some seriously nice stuff!
    It was amazingly polished, except the gun effects suddenly dropped out?

  • Jeffrey Kee

    Absolution,

    Well? I see that you have proven my points once again; you are giving a distorted view of Christianity. You should be ashamed for writing in your previous comments to my corrections that I was wrong on judging this show too early in the season, because now you are digging a bigger pit for yourselves. Do you not see the false teachings that you are spreading? Or do you not want to see it? Because if you did, then you would have defended your position scripturally, or you would have listened to the correction you have been given and acted upon it. What makes you think that God is pleased with what you are doing? I have given you several Biblical references that speak against the things being taught in the show, and you have not. Yes, apparently you never did read those comments (or any of the other ones for that matter) because it was all there. I had predicted the problems in episode three weeks ago (written in previous comments), and now I see that I was right.
    I did not judge you earlier just on assumptions, but as I have read your comments, I have quoted you in almost every topic. I did not find the problems only in the show, but in the heart of people like Micah (as proven in other comments). I say again: Look at the Bible and pray about this long and hard. Open your eyes to see that I am not just saying these things. They are in the Bible, but you just have to look.

    In Christ,
    Jeffrey Kee

  • Jeffrey Kee

    Andrew,

    I hope that you will read the reply that I sent you (near the bottom of episode #2) and hear what you have to say about it.

    In Christ,
    Jeffrey Kee

  • Lauren B

    Dear Jeffrey,

    I feel somewhat responsible for what has happened here, since I was the one to show you Absolution, so I feel obligated to respond to your posts. When I first told you about Absolution you warned me that you were a critic. I said it was fine because we needed them, but I feel that this is getting out of hand. It's okay if you don't like Absolution, not everyone will, but please don't discourage our fans from watching it; it's their choice, not yours. When you critique a show, you critique the show, not the people watching it. If you really want respect as a Christian, I request that you please stop posting arguments against these people.

    That is all I wanted to say.

    -Lauren
    ilovereeses@gmail.com

    (If you want to respond to this, I suggest email. That way we don’t spam the comment board)

  • Katelyn McFarland(Cassie Mone)

    They were pressed for time. It takes A LOT of work, and they were already behind. But, I think they did an amazing job! It looks great.
    The sound is good, I love the music, and I can't wait for the fourth episode!

  • Andrew

    Let me ask you a question. In this episode, James says, “God wouldn't have wanted me to kill them, right?” or something to that nature. Yet he does anyways, multiple times. Now, are you assuming, because this character does this, that Absolution is TEACHING that this is right? Because I was thinking that James, in this situation, is doing what he KNOWS is wrong when he doesn't feel like he has any other choice. This is the course of many unbelievers because they don't know God as an answer. Ellie is pointing to God but James isn't listening at this point (from what I gleaned from the show, I'm not a producer).

    Moreover, the project seems like a fun first video project for those involved rather than a dramatic outreach to change people's lives.

  • Tina Grieco

    I must say, bravo! I enjoyed this episode, not solely because of the action, but also because of the emotional depth. The character development is done very well. The music was spot-on with good timing. Good job.

  • Luke

    Jeffrey,

    I have to say I am surprised and somewhat dismayed that you are so willing to publicly attack fellow Christians for something that is only coming into fruition.

    One additional point – one of your comments on Episode 2 said that by not refuting Gabby's, point, the writers by default agreed with her. Whether they agree or not, this a a fallacy; you cannot argue that silence is the same as agreement. Silence merely mean that the comment was over looked or no response has been made to date.)

    I also noticed an number of ad hominim fallacies in your arguments. Be careful not to assume immeadiately that everything a person says is the way they meant to say or a complete description of their argument/thought process/beliefs. ASk for clarification.

    You gave in your post on Episode 2 a list of theological problems with Absolution as you saw them, compared with those you found in the Bible. I have reproduced them below for the sake of easy answer. Beloqw each one I added my comments after a dash.

    What Absolution stands on:
    *1* God will take away our salvation if He wants

    -I am unsure what you are drawing this first point for Absolution from. I have yet to see or hear anything that even suggest this belief. Where are you getting this from?

    *2* Kill the sick if they are dangerous

    -This is how many of the characters feel. Obviously Ellie (the only Christian among the characters) has issues with this assumption on the part of her friends, and especially for herself. Just becuase chracters act this belief out, it does not mean that the creators believe this, or that the characters beliefs, and thus actions, cannot change.

    *3* A virus can condemn you to hell and can force you to reject God

    -I cannot find evidence for this within any episode either. The only thing I can think of is that you are referring to that fact that James repeatedly refers to the infected as dead or similar things. Being dead, or losing higher thought processes (the equivalent of brain death) does not instantly condemn one to hell. It was the choices they made before death that. Put another way, the cast and crew have compared the infected to having an advnaced version of a rabies-like virus. Rabies damages the brain, causing loss of muscular and impulse control, increased aggression, loss of coherent cognitive process leading to psychosis, and eventually death. Imagine this fictional virus only destroyed rational and impulse control centers in the brain – removed the very things that make us human. the “infected” would be lefta s instint-driven animal minds in human bodies. they are for all purposes dead. The manner of their physical death does not effect in the slightest the state of their souls at death. (Cast and crew: I am even close here? I'm trying to read between the lines, so . . .)

    *4* “Kill or be killed” & Save your self first, because you’re the important one

    -Again, this is how many of the characters feel, with Ellie being bother by this. Gresham also has some problems, for example, when james killed the newly infected man in cold blood. This velief can change on the part of any character, and their actions can change. Saying it now does indeed put it in viewers minds. It also means that they are conscious of it, and able to analyze and challenge it if given contrasting information later.

    —————————————————————-

    What the Bible teaches us:
    *1* God has promised that we have eternal life if we confess that His son died for our sins, and that no one can take it away from us.

    -Romans 10: 9-10 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.”

    Not just if we blieve hH rose, but also confess that He is the Risen Lord. A small point of clarification.

    *2* Protect the sick even if they mean you harm

    - You continually say that the cast must support all their comments with Biblical sources, but do not do so here. reference this, and we can discuss it.

    *3* Man decides whether he wants God or sin (the price of sin is the rejection of God’s gift of eternal life) Christ says that he will not even let us be tempted beyond our strength, so our rejection of God cannot be caused by a virus, it is caused by us choosing to reject His son Jesus.

    - But God also has an eternal, perfect plan and knowledge of everything that will happen, what choices people will make. Theologians have retled with this question for centuries. it is one of the mysteries of the faith that free will and God's unchangable plans can coexsist.
    “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23.
    SIn is the choice to choose what we want over what God wants. God pays us what we deserve for our disobedience, ie., giving us death istead of life.

    *4*Show compassion to your enemies (Romans12:17-21) and love your neighbor as yourself (the parable in the Bible tells us of a Samaritan helping a Hebrew, a man who hated his kind. Jesus said that if you hate someone you have murdered them in your heart. That means we have sinned.)

    - First, you must consider your assumptions of the infected. YOu see them as humans without any change. I see them as brain-dead, running like animals on instinct. (We should wait for the creators to comment on this, either in a post or an episode.) Is an animal your enemy if its trying to kill you?

    One thing to remember:
    Absolution is a work of fiction, and one in progress at that. We (the viewers) do not know how the story will continue, how the characters will change, or who they really are beneath the layers of fear and anger. The writers do. They know the end, they made the characters, they know how they will cahnge and who they will become.

  • http://ColdShoulder.org coldshoulder

    Jeffrey! You are back! Well? What did you think?
    *reads comment*

    Uh…ok…? What is that supposed to mean. Your whole argument is made without any specifics. You know what? I think I know you pretty well by now, and what you are gonna…chide…us about. So let me do a preemptive analysis of this episode for you!

    Yes I am in favor of the preemptive strike. :)

    So! We've had a lot going on this episode. James…chides…Ellie about not shooting the infected.
    James says that God put her there, and she was the one who decided not to shoot.

    So, what's wrong with this?
    Nothing!
    James is challenging Ellie on whether she didn't kill the infected because SHE didn't want to, or because God didn't want her to. This is something we explore further in this episode in the scene between Doug and Ellie. When Ellie comes to Doug before the battle, out of a need for some sort of comfort, he tells her that he also dislikes killing. Because he is good at it. What he is saying here is that he can loose himself in the killing, and loose sight of the fact that these infected were once people. (BTW, this is a point that I think needs clarification.) Ellie, like anyone, quickly tells Doug what she knows is right, that God gave him a gift, even if it is killing, and he shouldn't be ashamed to use it, to protect, or defend.

    But, like anyone else, she doesn't see the hypocrisy of telling Doug it's OK to kill, when she won't. Then, she says that “God wouldn't make me do it again.” This hints that she has killed before, possibly when she was on her own, before she found James. This goes back to my earlier idea that, maybe she is afraid to kill the infected because she has killed before, and that experience scarred her. Maybe she is afraid of what killing again will do to her.

    And here is where we get to what we believe.

    The infected are dead, spiritually. I cannot know in real life if it is true, but in the show, when they are infected their brain is damaged to the point that they are no longer human. They cannot think, or reason. Therefore, they are dead. They are still alive because their body is living, but their soul has left their body, and they are like an animal.

    This is fact, you cannot argue with this. This is what we call one of the “World rules.” You can disagree that when a person is brain dead, they are not spiritually dead, which could be true, but this is not what I am talking about. This is fiction, we can change the rules.

    It is not a sin to kill.
    It is a sin to MURDER, but not kill. Several times God has COMMANDED his people to kill. Like when he commanded Saul to kill a whole city, and when Saul didn't obey Him, he took away his kingdom.
    The infected, as I have said, are animals. They are very dangerous animals. They should be killed if they are putting you in danger.
    I don't think they should be hunted, since they were once human, and they deserve respect because of that, but that is opinion, the Bible says nothing about this.

    Also, if you would like me to look up the verse from Second Samuel that I referenced I will be glad to, I am just assuming you know which one I am talking about.

    By the way, I am refraining from talking about the ending because of spoilers, but in a little while I will. Suffice to say, all the things I have been talking about come to a head and Ellie is forced to deal with whether it is HER or God that doesn't want her to kill.

  • http://ColdShoulder.org coldshoulder

    Jeffrey! You are back! Well? What did you think?
    *reads comment*

    Uh…ok…? What is that supposed to mean. Your whole argument is made without any specifics. You know what? I think I know you pretty well by now, and what you are gonna…chide…us about. So let me do a preemptive analysis of this episode for you!

    Yes I am in favor of the preemptive strike. :)

    So! We've had a lot going on this episode. James…chides…Ellie about not shooting the infected.
    James says that God put her there, and she was the one who decided not to shoot.

    So, what's wrong with this?
    Nothing!
    James is challenging Ellie on whether she didn't kill the infected because SHE didn't want to, or because God didn't want her to. This is something we explore further in this episode in the scene between Doug and Ellie. When Ellie comes to Doug before the battle, out of a need for some sort of comfort, he tells her that he also dislikes killing. Because he is good at it. What he is saying here is that he can loose himself in the killing, and loose sight of the fact that these infected were once people. (BTW, this is a point that I think needs clarification.) Ellie, like anyone, quickly tells Doug what she knows is right, that God gave him a gift, even if it is killing, and he shouldn't be ashamed to use it, to protect, or defend.

    But, like anyone else, she doesn't see the hypocrisy of telling Doug it's OK to kill, when she won't. Then, she says that “God wouldn't make me do it again.” This hints that she has killed before, possibly when she was on her own, before she found James. This goes back to my earlier idea that, maybe she is afraid to kill the infected because she has killed before, and that experience scarred her. Maybe she is afraid of what killing again will do to her.

    And here is where we get to what we believe.

    The infected are dead, spiritually. I cannot know in real life if it is true, but in the show, when they are infected their brain is damaged to the point that they are no longer human. They cannot think, or reason. Therefore, they are dead. They are still alive because their body is living, but their soul has left their body, and they are like an animal.

    This is fact, you cannot argue with this. This is what we call one of the “World rules.” You can disagree that when a person is brain dead, they are not spiritually dead, which could be true, but this is not what I am talking about. This is fiction, we can change the rules.

    It is not a sin to kill.
    It is a sin to MURDER, but not kill. Several times God has COMMANDED his people to kill. Like when he commanded Saul to kill a whole city, and when Saul didn't obey Him, he took away his kingdom.
    The infected, as I have said, are animals. They are very dangerous animals. They should be killed if they are putting you in danger.
    I don't think they should be hunted, since they were once human, and they deserve respect because of that, but that is opinion, the Bible says nothing about this.

    Also, if you would like me to look up the verse from Second Samuel that I referenced I will be glad to, I am just assuming you know which one I am talking about.

    By the way, I am refraining from talking about the ending because of spoilers, but in a little while I will. Suffice to say, all the things I have been talking about come to a head and Ellie is forced to deal with whether it is HER or God that doesn't want her to kill.

  • http://dylanhouston.blogspot.com/ Theological Science

    Lol your theology is a amusing and downright hilarious joke. Your religion and viewpoints is what causes the downfall of humanity. It's the cause for no progress in modern society or in everything imaginable. You are stuck in your illogical irrational beliefs- you might as well start a church and preach the good news! Your view of Christianity is the truly distorted one- no matter what lifestyle or goals that a “Christian” may lead, they always end up back in the same place. We are all humans, one in the same. You are the one with all the false teachings. You teach the teachings that Christians practice for two days and then revert back to humanistic behavior.

    *4* “Kill or be killed” & Save your self first, because you’re the important one
    Is war unjustifiable? Would you rather get your a$$ blown out of the water? Or would you rather refrain from killing the infidels, just as the Muslims believe? Because of course we all see what is happening to those Eastern countries. The Bible is FILLED with wars.

    Ezekiel 9:5-7
    “Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.”

    Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    Kill Homosexuals
    “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    Kill Nonbelievers

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    If you ask me, the killing of this show coincides EXACTLY with the Bible. I am a religious person myself, and I know you will ask me about the validity and context of these Scriptures.

    1) It's the Bible. Infallible word of God, yes?
    2) The Bible is historical, philosophical, and a book of prophecies. Regardless, it still states it.

    “Because if you did, then you would have defended your position scripturally, or you would have listened to the correction you have been given and acted upon it. What makes you think that God is pleased with what you are doing?”

    Why don't you defend your position with scriptures other than the historical ones that do not apply today? Is the correction that you have given straight from the source of the divine and holy God? I didn't know he had any modern prophets around? Also, what makes YOU think that God is pleased with what YOU are DOING?

    “Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.” Ephesians 6:17 NKJV
    So if you slay demons with the “sword of the Spirit”, is that wrong? I don't see much of a difference between this and killing people of different religions. More people die because of religious causes than from anything else. What about the crusades? Those people killed in the name of JESUS CHRIST.

    Allow people to believe what they believe. Do not be too hasty in criticizing this show; before you do, practice what you preach. You should be ashamed of all the things YOU have done wrong. Are you doing any better than them for criticizing them with absolutely no basis on which to base your arguments? Is your arguing inspired by GOD? Are you strengthening the case for CHRIST by striking down your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ?

    Jeffrey Key is the epitome of the flawed right wing conservatism of Christianity. Leads to a dead end folks, use some sense.
    What denomination are you Jeffrey? Southern Baptist? Presbyterian? Or how about the great “non-denominational”, which is really just a denomination in itself?

    Let the kids work on this show. Criticism can help, but only if it is logical, comprehensible and structural.

    By the way, I am not in any way affiliated with the staff here or Absolution itself. This is a third party opinion.

    In Christ,
    Dylan

    PUT YOUR STUNNA SHADES ON

  • Gabby

    OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE BEST EPISODE SO FAR!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAHHHHH I NEED EPISODE 4!!!!! sooooo good :)

  • http://dylanhouston.blogspot.com/ Theological Science

    That was addressed to Jeffrey by the way.
    Check out my blog too
    http://dylanhouston.blogspot.com

    Good effort Absolution staff. Could use some improvements but I like the concept and most of the acting.

  • Jeffrey Kee

    Dear Andrew,

    Answer: Yes, because as I have said before, Micah said in his comment (comment #29, paragraph #15, sentence #1) that it is the right thing to do (also look at the comment from Coldshoulder right below this one in the first few sentences). It seems to me that you have not talked to him about this. If you will not do this, then look at episode #3 again, Ellie does not believe that it is wrong, because she decides to do it to.

    As for what you said about the project being for those involved instead of as a dramatic outreach to people’s lives, I suggest that you review the comments by others. They are all saying that it is an outreach, even if it was not, it is no way for a Christian to have “fun”, we are never supposed to dwell on sin for our “fun” (Philippians 4:8-9). All we do should reflect our honor to follow what God wants us to do. If we make shows that are teach or lift up evil, then we are not really living a Christian life, but a pagan life.

    In Christ,
    Jeffrey Kee

  • http://ColdShoulder.org coldshoulder

    1. Andrew is right, just because a character acts a certain way, doesn't mean that the writer, or the producer, or even the actor, believe that is something that is right. But, we try not to make our actors do things that would make them sin, like, Absolution will NEVER have a sex scene OR nudity. Those are things that the actor would be doing that are sins. Pretending to shoot someone is not a sin.

    The Bible tells of great sins in it. It tells of every imaginable sin. Does this mean the Bible “dwells” on sin?

    2. Also, Andrew is not affiliated with the show. So, he may believe that James was wrong to shoot the infected man at the end of episode 1. This does not change the fact that by showing this we believe it. Although, you are right, we have said that we believe in that situation it was right of him to save the lives of the people under his charge, and shoot the infected who was about to kill them.

  • Phillip

    WOW Jeffery,
    you never quit do u

  • Phillip

    Jeffery Kee,
    YOU ARE acting so stupid it isn't that important first of all u don't know the plot and I do so let me explain it to u the sorvivors are christian trying to survive in a cruel world the infected are non-christians that are trying to turn them away from God and the cure that they find is basically like the Bible and when the survivers discover it they share it with the infected and they in turn become christians. Get it got it good so pease leave us alone

  • Phillip

    sorry coldshoulder thats where ur wrong they arn't pretending to they are and when they do it it is in self defense

  • Phillip

    hey theo science,
    I agree oh look I can picture Jeffery “I bring u the news of mi beleif I tell u that Absolution teaches wrong because people are fighting for their lives”oh also he's fighting with Micah to impress Lauren don't ask Jeff u old kook

  • Phillip

    Dear Lauren,
    thank u so much for what u jut did oh and listen on the contrary Jeff is trying to impress u oh and don't ask how I know because I know ull kill me whn we film th second season (that I want to be in) but I need Peters permission I have Micahs so yep

  • Kendra

    OMG I love this episode! It was SO amazing!!! I can't wait till the next ones out!!! I loved the ending!!! The flashback made the dramatics so much cooler! Keep up the great work!!!!

  • Chelsea

    Good episode. Great camera angles, nice music, good acting, interesting ending. P.J. it took me halfway through your dialogue to realize that was you acting. I couldn't tell it was you until you said something a certain way, then I recognized your voice and realized it was you. Good job. Good job to Cody as well. The episode kepting skipping towards the end, is there anyway to fix that? And I was surprised at how Cody's infected character was being so calm and full of thought, perhaps you could have made him a little more manic and then just made that section in like slow motion for dramatic effect, other than that good job.

  • Lar

    just let them do their show, its a fantasy show. These are good kids, they could be doing worse things than making videos, be gone if you don't like what they are doing. Why keep watching oh holy one?

  • Jeffrey Kee

    Dear Absolution,

    I will try to be as short as possible. I see that what I say is not getting anywhere; you are already poised against any and everything that I could possibly say. The last few days I have received maybe a dozen messages. I will say only this to those questions. I have already answered them, my stance is the same; you just have to look back on those comments for my answers. But this is not what this comment is about.
    Let me try and recap what has happened over my involvement in these comments. I was told about Absolution from Lauren Bahr. I am not sure why, I am still trying to figure that out. We have never had any real conversations about anything, sometimes it was just a casual “hi” at church. So when she told me about Absolution, I was confused. I believe that God wanted me here to say what I have said. I was given insight into the future of the story by each person, stating their understanding of the plot of the story. I heard opposite views of how the story was playing out and what these shows are teaching (all this was told to me by the different people that have written to me). I should not have been given this responsibility, all this information was given to a young man that has seen a problem. He wondered why the task had been given to him, because he should have been the last candidate that Lauren would have gone to. Christian storytelling is my life’s study; I am not an expert for sure, but I did have enough to be able to write the problems down. But no one has heeded the comments, nor has anyone agreed. I have blazed the trail, but here is where I will be laying down the baton, if anyone feels that what I have said in any way is correct and you want to pick up where I left off, all I can give you are these comments and my blessing, for you will have a hard road ahead of you, you will be condemned, rejected, and (possibly) hated; it will be a lonely road for sure, but remember that God will not leave you, though mankind will. But before I leave, I have two people to address.

    To the Theological Science,
    I am glad that you see me as a right winged conservative Christian. You have stated your anger, so I will not deprive you of that. All I will say is that you assume a lot, I was told by others that I was assuming a lot of them, but at least I had asked them what they believed so I could have a better understanding before I restated their beliefs. Yes I believe I am pleasing God, and I am practicing what I preach; though you assume that I do not. I leave you with this, if you do indeed believe that the Bible is infallible, then why would you attack a person that is basing his believes off of it?

    To Phillip,
    I just found out that you have been writing me, I am sorry that I have been unable to respond yet. I sense a great amount of anger in you; you lash out for what reason? I have not called people cruel names, nor have I wanted to. So what is the cause of your aggression? Is it because you think that it is wrong to question what people do so that one may know what to make of them? These are not questions for you to tell me, but for you to tell yourself. I am sorry that you have been frustrated with me, so I will now take my leave; all my answers to your questions are in the other comments if you want to know the answers.

    Farewell Absolution, I will still pray for you. I, Jeffrey Kee, take my leave. I will not come onto your site again, unless asked by someone in Absolution. If you have any more comments or questions (if any), I ask you to give them to Lauren Bahr to pass on to me.

    In Christ Jesus,
    Jeffrey Kee

  • Phillip

    ah ah ah Lar,
    don't be fiesty

  • C.

    Well that was certainly a meaty episode. It seemed more like a climactic episode rather than just the third in the series. I agree with most of Chelsea's comments, except that the skipping she refers to was actually repeated pausing because the episode wasn't downloading fast enough.

    Though I liked the lighting, sound and camera angles, there were occasional problems with all three. For some reason, when Green is speaking off camera to Shephard in the first scene, his voice is distorted. I liked the video cam scenes, very clever and different. But the poor quality mike on that camera kept picking up background sounds (people talking and laughing). I heard people in the background in the last scene of the episode too, which definitely ruined the effect. There must be quiet on the set! (and in the house) when you are filming. ;-)

    When the character holding the video cam placed it on the table, we were stuck looking at the back of Cassie's head for too long. I suppose that's realistic, but I would have preferred to see at least some glimpses of the character she was talking to. The lighting on the faces in several scenes was too dark. I didn't recognize Peter either until halfway through his scene.

    I liked when Ellie said she didn't want to kill AGAIN. That took me by surprise. I thought that was very effective. But why was Gresham(?) suddenly the one in charge, giving instructions to the others before the battle? I thought Green was the leader of this group.

    I'm curious as to how much of the music is original. I particularly like the piano music.

    Overall a very well done episode. Very impressive.

  • NateK

    I think the comments were more juicy then the episode LOL.

    All I want to say and I realy am too late to join this “discussion” is that we need to be a little more respectful when we talk to one another. After all one thing I think we can agree on is…

    Proverbs 15:1 “A gentle answer deflects anger, but harsh words make tempers flare.”

    Also we are ALL Christians so please remember that although we don't agree on everything, and sometimes a lot of things, we're still the body of Christ and argueing about these things and screaming at each other isn't going to make everything work out. Doesn't mean we shoudn't discuss them at all though.

    There's nothing wrong with discussing things it's when we start turning it into something it doesn't have to be that it gets nasty. And for those of you who can't be proven wrong, don't bother saying anything because why would anyone want to believe you anyway.

    ****These comments are completely general and not pushed towards anyone personally. ****

    Sorry I know I'm not the most qualified person to say anything. But I stick with the Absolution team in what they're doing, and from most of what I saw I think the same thing.

    Nathan Kraft

  • http://www.AbsolutionTV.com Micah McFarland

    Thank you! We're very pleased with the show, although, we are also aware of these little technical discrepancies. As we continue on, we're trying to improve the technical aspect, but as the entire season has already been filmed, most of these comments are being taken to heart for the next season (and we are taking them to heart, and very thankful for critiques).

    As for the music, we're very proud to say that every piece of music we use in the show (excluding the earlier character promos and behind the scenes) is 100% original, composed by either the actors, or friends of our, and all recorded here. We're so excited about it all, and can't wait to show everyone a couple musical scores we have up our sleeves.

  • SPAM

    Make your own movie Jeff.

  • Ash

    I'm going to say, that so far, I was a bit skeptical about the whole thing… being close to a few filmmakers in my town as well, I'm brought up with my own expectations on acting.. graphics.. cinematography.. etc. So, while watching your show, all I could think was “aghhh….” too many things I wanted to change. Mainly the a majority of the acting seemed terrible, or how the story was developing, and mostly in the first episodes, the high contrast, and very very dark imagery (i couldn't see a thing). Some of the audio was a bit shoddy or rather, the level of audio seemed to be louder in some areas than in other, probably having to do with mic placement, or … whatever… I disliked quite a bit of the camera angles….

    But before I continue to sound like I'm bashing, let me say, I also know that this is mostly a show about teenagers, (and I will assume) made by teenagers. And of course I shouldn't expect you to be professionals.

    And what changed my mind is this episode, at the very end, with Ellie screaming at the oncoming infected, James hearing the scream and running to her rescue, and flashing back to the moment of her falling at James' steps. The scene does very well with the beautiful build up of music, and still being able to hear the gunshots that are still ringing in Ellie's ears, outside of the flashback… so when the world comes back to light, James rolling on the floor with the infected, you feel like you've just waken up from a pleasant coma back to stark reality… And I meant that in the best sense possible, for that entire sequence changed the way I viewed the film.

    and of course, at first, I was very, very disinterested by the characters… and I felt a bit confused at first, as to whether I was supposed to be looking at them as teenagers, or looking at them as teenagers who were acting like adults. Possibly because of the reality of the situation, I was very confused about it… and I couldn't relate to the characters as people who were my age. The costuming might have helped…. for instance, James' really cool trench coat. I mean,… I don't know how many average teenagers wear trench coats (unless somewhere it's explained that it used to belong to his dad, or something and then as a step toward being a man he puts on the coat.. blah blah blah)… I will admit, I do actually have a friend who wears them all the time, but he's one out of a million.

    It's not really something you can change at this point, but something to think about as you go further on. That costuming, and dialogue have a lot to do with how we perceive them.. when I realized that they WERE teenagers, I had the hardest time keeping hold of it. Not that I'm expecting them to be completely frivolous in their situation, but more that I think I want to see them acting their age in that sort of environment… which I would think includes most of their abilities or inabilities to be or not be emotional — as a teenager, you're full of emotions and hormones, it doesn't matter if you're in a battlefield of zombies. As youth, without parents to hold on to them, they must hold on to each other.

    It seems too unrealistic to me that any teenager would want to keep their head in the bottle of stress and angst for so long. At least, when it comes to most of them (they're all very in their own heads, understandable, especially if the point is to see them reliving or remembering their past). I did notice that they're all distant from each other, which boggles me slightly since six months is a long time to live with each other in a home, and not get to know each other, (unless they were all brought up to be introverts).

    While they're very distant now from each other now, heading towards their own sanctified corners of the house, I'm hoping that it's only because it's the beginning

    I hope that later on we get to see them develop something to take from… these are a bunch of kids in a house, surrounded with everything to fear, and have nothing to hold on to but each other. (which I will say, I did see a hint of that relationship factor at the end of the movie, when they were looking at each other, after working together to defend their home).

    And I'm not going to say that I didn't think you had already thought of it, maybe you did, and maybe it's already coming into play. The acting actually has gotten a lot better so far, and I think this episode is definitely serving a taste of what you really should be striving for.

    So yeah, good luck, and the music is fantastic, congrats.

  • Ash

    Oh one more thing.

    Seriously Jeff Kee. Get a life. Don't even assume that we're all idiots here, and we're gonna believe everything that is on tv and the internet. Like I'm gonna change my religion because I watch some movie. It takes more than that.

  • Ash

    I'm going to say, that so far, I was a bit skeptical about the whole thing… being close to a few filmmakers in my town as well, I'm brought up with my own expectations on acting.. graphics.. cinematography.. etc. So, while watching your show, all I could think was “aghhh….” too many things I wanted to change. Mainly the a majority of the acting seemed terrible, or how the story was developing, and mostly in the first episodes, the high contrast, and very very dark imagery (i couldn't see a thing). Some of the audio was a bit shoddy or rather, the level of audio seemed to be louder in some areas than in other, probably having to do with mic placement, or … whatever… I disliked quite a bit of the camera angles….

    But before I continue to sound like I'm bashing, let me say, I also know that this is mostly a show about teenagers, (and I will assume) made by teenagers. And of course I shouldn't expect you to be professionals.

    And what changed my mind is this episode, at the very end, with Ellie screaming at the oncoming infected, James hearing the scream and running to her rescue, and flashing back to the moment of her falling at James' steps. The scene does very well with the beautiful build up of music, and still being able to hear the gunshots that are still ringing in Ellie's ears, outside of the flashback… so when the world comes back to light, James rolling on the floor with the infected, you feel like you've just waken up from a pleasant coma back to stark reality… And I meant that in the best sense possible, for that entire sequence changed the way I viewed the film.

    and of course, at first, I was very, very disinterested by the characters… and I felt a bit confused at first, as to whether I was supposed to be looking at them as teenagers, or looking at them as teenagers who were acting like adults. Possibly because of the reality of the situation, I was very confused about it… and I couldn't relate to the characters as people who were my age. The costuming might have helped…. for instance, James' really cool trench coat. I mean,… I don't know how many average teenagers wear trench coats (unless somewhere it's explained that it used to belong to his dad, or something and then as a step toward being a man he puts on the coat.. blah blah blah)… I will admit, I do actually have a friend who wears them all the time, but he's one out of a million.

    It's not really something you can change at this point, but something to think about as you go further on. That costuming, and dialogue have a lot to do with how we perceive them.. when I realized that they WERE teenagers, I had the hardest time keeping hold of it. Not that I'm expecting them to be completely frivolous in their situation, but more that I think I want to see them acting their age in that sort of environment… which I would think includes most of their abilities or inabilities to be or not be emotional — as a teenager, you're full of emotions and hormones, it doesn't matter if you're in a battlefield of zombies. As youth, without parents to hold on to them, they must hold on to each other.

    It seems too unrealistic to me that any teenager would want to keep their head in the bottle of stress and angst for so long. At least, when it comes to most of them (they're all very in their own heads, understandable, especially if the point is to see them reliving or remembering their past). I did notice that they're all distant from each other, which boggles me slightly since six months is a long time to live with each other in a home, and not get to know each other, (unless they were all brought up to be introverts).

    While they're very distant now from each other now, heading towards their own sanctified corners of the house, I'm hoping that it's only because it's the beginning

    I hope that later on we get to see them develop something to take from… these are a bunch of kids in a house, surrounded with everything to fear, and have nothing to hold on to but each other. (which I will say, I did see a hint of that relationship factor at the end of the movie, when they were looking at each other, after working together to defend their home).

    And I'm not going to say that I didn't think you had already thought of it, maybe you did, and maybe it's already coming into play. The acting actually has gotten a lot better so far, and I think this episode is definitely serving a taste of what you really should be striving for.

    So yeah, good luck, and the music is fantastic, congrats.

  • Ash

    Oh one more thing.

    Seriously Jeff Kee. Get a life. Don't even assume that we're all idiots here, and we're gonna believe everything that is on tv and the internet. Like I'm gonna change my religion because I watch some movie. It takes more than that.

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